{"id":9250,"date":"2005-10-26T18:22:16","date_gmt":"2005-10-26T23:22:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/cosmicvariance\/2005\/10\/26\/objectivity\/"},"modified":"2005-10-26T18:22:16","modified_gmt":"2005-10-26T23:22:16","slug":"objectivity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/2005\/10\/26\/objectivity\/","title":{"rendered":"Objectivity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/sciwrite.org\/sciwrite\/sciwrite.kccole.html\">K.C. Cole<\/a>, moving force behind the <a href=\"http:\/\/physics.usc.edu\/catnot\/\">Categorically Not!<\/a> meetings that Clifford has blogged about, has left an interesting comment on Clifford&#8217;s post from September on <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/cosmicvariance\/2005\/09\/04\/categorically-not-point-of-view\/\">Point of View<\/a>.  It&#8217;s provocative (and I largely agree with it), so I thought I would reproduce it here on the front page.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Now that it&#8217;s time for our <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/cosmicvariance\/2005\/10\/25\/categorically-not-exploring-space\/\">October Categorically Not!<\/a>, I finally have a moment to respond to objections some people raised about my September blurb on the subject of Objectivity, or Point of View.<\/p>\n<p>As a journalist who writes about science, I thought my colleagues could learn a thing or two about the nature of &#8220;objective truth&#8221; from physics. Objectivity is a word that journalists use a lot\u00e2\u20ac&#8221;but in my experience, scientists don&#8217;t, because it&#8217;s not a very useful term. Journalists believe that it&#8217;s possible (and desirable) to have zero point of view\u00e2\u20ac&#8221;that is, to look at the world from some privileged frame through which they see the unvarnished &#8220;truth.&#8221; What makes science strong, in my opinion, is that it doesn&#8217;t fall into that trap. What scientists say is: I made this measurement, and I got this result. Or, I solved an equation, and I got this solution. To say you have a &#8220;result&#8221; or &#8220;solution&#8221; without saying how you got it is meaningless. Even when I say the sky is blue, it&#8217;s understood that I am a human being whose retina is detecting certain wavelengths of light which are then being interpreted by my human brain in very specific ways. The sky is not &#8220;blue&#8221; to a snake or a dog or a bee (or if I look through a red filter).<\/p>\n<p>Similarly, if I say the universe was created in a Big Bang (never mind the details) 13 billion or so years ago, there&#8217;s no reason anyone should believe me unless I point out that this particular &#8220;objective reality&#8221; is based on evidence from several very different points of view (cosmic microwave background, expansion, nucleosynthesis&#8230;.). Journalists often fail to explain this\u00e2\u20ac&#8221;which is one reason I believe the whole ID issue has been so badly handled in the press. It&#8217;s not enough to say &#8220;most scientists think evolution is correct&#8230;.&#8221; That leaves the reader in the position of choosing who to believe\u00e2\u20ac&#8221;the NAS, or the president, for example. It&#8217;s not so difficult, I think, to explain that evolution is an answer to specific questions about the fossil record, morphology, DNA, embryology, etc. But it&#8217;s rarely done.<\/p>\n<p>What really seemed to get people&#8217;s goat (goats?) was my statement that how you look at something determines what you see. I fail to understand the problem. If I look at light with a certain kind of apparatus, it&#8217;s a wave; if I look with another, it&#8217;s a particle. Reality is always reality, but how we choose to ask the question does determine the answer. So the only way to get an &#8220;objective&#8221; answer to is say how you asked the question! (And if I&#8217;m viewing the world through the eyes of an educated middle aged white woman living in LA\u00e2\u20ac&#8221;which I am\u00e2\u20ac&#8221;then I&#8217;d better take that into account as well.)<\/p>\n<p>An astronomer friend told me he was upset because my wording played into the hands of the &#8220;relativists&#8221; (not that kind); that it was understood as &#8220;code&#8221; to mean &#8220;there&#8217;s no reality,&#8221; or some such. But I&#8217;m really tired of other people telling me what my words mean\u00e2\u20ac&#8221;whether the subject is objectivity, &#8220;family values,&#8221; &#8220;culture of life,&#8221; &#8220;liberal,&#8221; &#8220;feminist,&#8221; or any of the rest.<\/p>\n<p>So, yes. Objectivity\u00e2\u20ac&#8221;meaning looking at a situation from a supposedly privileged frame from which you can see the unbiased &#8220;truth&#8221; \u00e2\u20ac&#8221;is, as I said, &#8220;not only unattainable, but intrinsically fraudulent and ultimately counterproductive.&#8221; Science understands this; it&#8217;s journalism that has the problem.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>K.C. Cole, moving force behind the Categorically Not! meetings that Clifford has blogged about, has left an interesting comment on Clifford&#8217;s post from September on Point of View. It&#8217;s provocative (and I largely agree with it), so I thought I would reproduce it here on the front page. Now that it&#8217;s time for our October [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[25,28],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9250","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-philosophy","category-science"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9250","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9250"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9250\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9250"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9250"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9250"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}