{"id":747,"date":"2006-04-12T17:02:21","date_gmt":"2006-04-12T22:02:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/cosmicvariance\/2006\/04\/12\/how-quickly-can-iran-get-the-bomb\/"},"modified":"2006-04-12T17:02:21","modified_gmt":"2006-04-12T22:02:21","slug":"how-quickly-can-iran-get-the-bomb","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/2006\/04\/12\/how-quickly-can-iran-get-the-bomb\/","title":{"rendered":"How quickly can Iran get the bomb?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Obviously a lot of smart and well-informed people have been thinking about this.  Many, like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.juancole.com\/2006\/04\/iran-can-now-make-glowing-mickey-mouse.html\">Juan Cole<\/a>, think that the Iranians are nowhere close to a bomb; <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2006\/04\/12\/the-facts-about-irans-uranium-enrichment\/\">ThinkProgress<\/a> is slightly less sanguine.  They are taking the trouble to make this argument because the US is claiming that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/apps\/news?pid=10000100&amp;sid=aduNTcpDuDd4&amp;refer=germany\">it would only take 16 days<\/a> for Iran to make a bomb.  There are all sorts of reasons to disbelieve this particular claim:  a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talkingpointsmemo.com\/archives\/008209.php\">history of crying wolf<\/a>, an apparent misunderstanding of the concept of significant figures&#8230;  Still, is it more like ten days, or ten years?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/catdynamics.blogspot.com\/2006\/04\/iranian-nuclear-speculations_12.html\">Steinn Sigur\u00c3\u00b0sson<\/a> looks at the problem as a physicist, and isn&#8217;t optimistic.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> I don&#8217;t know Iran; I don&#8217;t have access to any classified information on nuclear weapons.<br \/>\nI do know something about physics&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>First of all, <a href=\"http:\/\/catdynamics.blogspot.com\/2006\/04\/iranian-nuclear-speculations_12.html\">Iran is clearly been working on putting together a full nuclear cycle for about 20 years<\/a><\/p>\n<p>That means they want to be able to do it all in-house: mining, enrichment, burning, plutonium extraction, power generation and bomb production.<\/p>\n<p>It is clear that they did the science in the early-to-mid-90s, they tested centrifuges, built small high neutron flux reactors and got small amounts of plutonium extracted.<\/p>\n<p>So, they learned Pu chemistry, what isotopes you get with different burns, and maybe some metallurgy.<\/p>\n<p>They then set up centrifuge halls and played with an AVLIS (laser isotope separator).<\/p>\n<p>They also ordered a 1GW reactor from the russians, and refined uranium oxide (aka &#8220;yellowcake&#8221;)  into both uranium tetrafluoride, uranium hexafluoride and uranium metal.<br \/>\nSupposedly several tons of uranium oxide were processed.<\/p>\n<p>Now: there are two ways to make bombs, at the basic level.<br \/>\nGet highly refined uranium-235 metal; or, fairly pure plutonium-239. In kilogram quantities.<br \/>\nU-235 bombs are simple and need not be tested. &#8220;A grad student could make one of those&#8221;.<br \/>\nPu-239 bombs are notoriously fickle and are said to need testing (although maybe not so much any more&#8230;)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Read the whole thing.<\/p>\n<p>Hofstadter&#8217;s Law says &#8220;It always takes longer than you think, even when taking into account Hofstadter&#8217;s Law.&#8221;  For nuclear weapons, unfortunately, the word &#8220;longer&#8221; should be replaced by &#8220;shorter.&#8221;  Historically, we always underestimate the proximity of other nations to full nuclear capability (unless we&#8217;re trying to cook up reasons to invade them).  I don&#8217;t know what to <em>do<\/em> about it, but there&#8217;s every reason to believe that, left to its own devices, Iran will have some sort of bomb sooner rather than later.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Obviously a lot of smart and well-informed people have been thinking about this. Many, like Juan Cole, think that the Iranians are nowhere close to a bomb; ThinkProgress is slightly less sanguine. They are taking the trouble to make this argument because the US is claiming that it would only take 16 days for Iran [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[30,38],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-747","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-science-and-society","category-world"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/747","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=747"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/747\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=747"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=747"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=747"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}