{"id":6129,"date":"2011-01-30T09:20:16","date_gmt":"2011-01-30T17:20:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/cosmicvariance\/?p=6129"},"modified":"2011-01-30T09:20:16","modified_gmt":"2011-01-30T17:20:16","slug":"a-sense-of-doubt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/2011\/01\/30\/a-sense-of-doubt\/","title":{"rendered":"A Sense of Doubt"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jerry Coyne, cheerful fire-breathing atheist that he is, <a href=\"http:\/\/whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com\/2011\/01\/30\/a-confab-with-the-faithful\/\">gets invited to a church<\/a> to talk about evolution.  That&#8217;s not how it worked out, as people were more interested in talking about the relationship between science and religion.  You can guess what happened &#8212; or maybe not.  There was a productive two-hour conversation in which both sides learned something.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s pretty much the same thing that happened <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/cosmicvariance\/2006\/06\/06\/church-going\/\">when I visited a Chicago church<\/a> back in the day.  There&#8217;s obviously a selection effect at work:  the kinds of churches that invite atheists in for conversations are generally ones that enjoy some kind of open dialogue.  Not that it&#8217;s all warm hugs and pleasant disagreement; I noticed that the older generation in my audience was a lot less open to even thinking about some of the points I raised, while Jerry had to fend off someone who thought that math and science had led to Nazi Germany.<\/p>\n<p>Jerry concludes that the harmful aspects of religion are correlated with the <em>certainty<\/em> displayed by its adherents.  This is a true but subtle point, as of course there are those who love to accuse scientists and\/or atheists of unwarranted certitude.  I think the difference is that we feel relatively sure about some things, while we&#8217;re quite ready to admit that we don&#8217;t know the answer to other questions, and we have a clear notion of where the distinction lies.  But I would think that, wouldn&#8217;t I?<\/p>\n<p>Conversations like these are enormously helpful.  The trick is that it&#8217;s much easier &#8212; on both sides &#8212; to be polite and interactive in person, while the temptation to lecture people from on high is irresistible in other contexts, where it&#8217;s easier to think of the opposition as cartoons rather than real people. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jerry Coyne, cheerful fire-breathing atheist that he is, gets invited to a church to talk about evolution. That&#8217;s not how it worked out, as people were more interested in talking about the relationship between science and religion. You can guess what happened &#8212; or maybe not. There was a productive two-hour conversation in which both [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[27,30],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6129","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-religion","category-science-and-society"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6129","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6129"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6129\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6129"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6129"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6129"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}