{"id":11105,"date":"2013-04-12T08:09:17","date_gmt":"2013-04-12T15:09:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/?p=11105"},"modified":"2013-04-12T08:09:17","modified_gmt":"2013-04-12T15:09:17","slug":"frogs-see-photons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/2013\/04\/12\/frogs-see-photons\/","title":{"rendered":"Frogs See Photons"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Arrgh, I have really wanted to hop back on the blogging bandwagon, but this travel\/work reality has made it tough. Next week, though, I plan to be blogging like a banshee. If banshees could blog. And if, when they did blog, they did so frequently and with enthusiasm.<\/p>\n<p>Just got back from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncsciencefestival.org\/\">North Carolina Science Festival<\/a> in Charlotte, where I talked about the Higgs boson. You can find some live-tweeting of the event by searching the hashtag <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search\/realtime?q=%23HiggsTalk&#038;src=typd\">#HiggsTalk<\/a>. Among all the deep and inspirational points I tried to make, one seemed to create the biggest impression: frogs can see individual photons.<\/p>\n<p>This is an example I got from <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=2LqEPNf9jXsC&#038;pg=PT37&#038;lpg=PT37&#038;dq=frog+vision+photon%22david+deutsch%22&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=xI1Q_C999Y&#038;sig=hC8O2lJC0ZclQ0l0DCd6fNERCTk&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=3B1oUd_XHKLtiwKSvIGwCQ&#038;ved=0CFMQ6AEwBQ\">David Deutsch&#8217;s book <em>The Fabric of Reality<\/em><\/a>. It&#8217;s an attempt to connect our underlying fundamental description of the world, which is in terms of fields, to what we see when we make a quantum observation, which is in terms of particles &#8212; at least if we look closely enough. Deutsch&#8217;s point is that human vision is a bit too crude to detect just one photon at a time, but frogs (and presumably other animals) are sensitive enough to see single photons.<\/p>\n<p>Such a fun and quirky fact naturally raised the skeptical instincts of some folks in the room, and to the internet they all went. Is it actually true?<\/p>\n<p>Turns out, to the extent that a few minutes of googling around can reveal, it&#8217;s not an easy question to answer. It&#8217;s certainly true that the photoreceptors in a frog&#8217;s eye are sensitive enough to trigger on individual photons &#8212; indeed, researchers are <a href=\"http:\/\/physicsworld.com\/cws\/article\/news\/2012\/sep\/13\/frog-photoreceptor-counts-photons\">using frog&#8217;s eyes<\/a> to help fashion hybrid light-detector technology. But on the other hand, <a href=\"http:\/\/math.ucr.edu\/home\/baez\/physics\/Quantum\/see_a_photon.html\">human photoreceptors are also sensitive enough<\/a> to trigger on individual photons &#8212; and yet, we don&#8217;t as a matter of fact actually see photons one at a time. The presumption is that we would be seeing too much noise if our brains actually responded to such low levels of light; in practice, it seems to take several dozen photons before a human will say they see something.<\/p>\n<p>So maybe the same is true for frogs? I wasn&#8217;t able to find a definitive-sounding word on the subject, but there is good reason to believe that frogs are at least much more sensitive than we are. The point is that noise we filter out is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thefreelibrary.com\/Frog+eyes+take+a+view+of+dim+world.-a06551564\">roughly proportional to body temperature<\/a>. In a warm-blooded creature, simple thermal motions are constantly jostling the rhodopsin molecules in the eye, which could mimic the act of seeing something. A cold-blooded frog isn&#8217;t as susceptible to this problem, so its vision can be usefully much more efficient at low light levels.<\/p>\n<p>Of course none of this matters to the actual point being made in my lecture, which is that light is really a vibration in the electromagnetic field, but careful observations (be they by frogs or artificial photodetectors) reveal individual energy packets call photons. It&#8217;s not that the field is &#8220;made of&#8221; photons, it&#8217;s that what we see when we perform measurements in a world governed by quantum mechanics is different from what the world is &#8220;actually made of,&#8221; to the extent that it&#8217;s okay to think about such a concept. Which, with all due respect to my croaky amphibious friends, is more amazing to me than all the eyeballs in the world.<\/p>\n<div class=\"lyte-wrapper\" title=\"What Can Frogs See That We Can&amp;#039;t?\" style=\"width:640px;max-width:100%;margin:5px;\"><div class=\"lyMe\" id=\"WYL_cztocbHiiqQ\" itemprop=\"video\" itemscope itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/VideoObject\"><div><meta itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" content=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/cztocbHiiqQ\/hqdefault.jpg\" \/><meta itemprop=\"embedURL\" content=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/cztocbHiiqQ\" \/><meta itemprop=\"duration\" content=\"PT3M5S\" \/><meta itemprop=\"uploadDate\" content=\"2013-03-04T13:02:57Z\" \/><\/div><div id=\"lyte_cztocbHiiqQ\" data-src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/cztocbHiiqQ\/hqdefault.jpg\" class=\"pL\"><div class=\"tC\"><div class=\"tT\" itemprop=\"name\">What Can Frogs See That We Can&#039;t?<\/div><\/div><div class=\"play\"><\/div><div class=\"ctrl\"><div class=\"Lctrl\"><\/div><div class=\"Rctrl\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><noscript><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/cztocbHiiqQ\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/cztocbHiiqQ\/0.jpg\" alt=\"What Can Frogs See That We Can&amp;#039;t?\" width=\"640\" height=\"340\" \/><br \/>Watch this video on YouTube<\/a><\/noscript><meta itemprop=\"description\" content=\"Check out the original double slit experiment: http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Iuv6hY6zsd0 - oh, and for the sun to be seen as single photons, you would have to be ~1000 light years away, so well past Pluto. For clarification on this video, please see: http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=OW7tfrTh66c What would you see if you were drifting through space, looking back at the sun? Well its light intensity would decrease as the inverse square of distance from the sun. And you would imagine the intensity would decrease smoothly, asymptotically approaching zero. But this is not what happens. If you had sensitive enough eyes, like frogs&#039; eyes, you would find that at some point the sun would start to flicker. You would see flashes of light separated by complete darkness. And as you drift further from the sun, what&#039;s strange is that these flashes do not decrease in brightness, but they do become less frequent. That&#039;s because light comes in lumps, called quanta or photons, which are indivisible. So if you try to spread light out very thinly, you reach a point where there are only single bits of light reaching an observer&#039;s eye at any given time. I should acknowledge the book &quot;The Fabric of Reality&quot; by David Deutsch, which contains a similar story about a frog and a torch. It inspired me to make this film. Thanks also to MinutePhysics for reviewing earlier drafts and suggesting I make it more ridiculous.\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"lL\" style=\"max-width:100%;width:640px;margin:5px;\"><\/div><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Arrgh, I have really wanted to hop back on the blogging bandwagon, but this travel\/work reality has made it tough. Next week, though, I plan to be blogging like a banshee. If banshees could blog. And if, when they did blog, they did so frequently and with enthusiasm. Just got back from the North Carolina [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11105","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-science"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11105","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11105"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11105\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11107,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11105\/revisions\/11107"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11105"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11105"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11105"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}